Completed Courses
Real Courses: The National Golf Club of Kansas City - Wakonda Club - Coeur d'Alene Resort Course
Fictitious Courses: Northern Lakes - Golfcom Tees
Southern Oaks - Hometown 9 hole real course with a fictitious back 9 added
I, too, am casually curious whether its an update of the previous, or a complete remake. Either way, happy its being made (and San Antonio too of course).
Finished Courses - Main: Amedal (fictional), Nine Bridges (real)
Other: Austin, Sheshan, Kauri Cliffs, Le Golf Nat. Updates: Whirlpool, Royal Lytham, Royal St George's, Chicago, Chambers Bay, Munchen Nord E
Working on: 2 fictional courses + a couple things...
It is an upgrade of Ross' design. We discussed this years ago when I upgraded Baltusrol for him. There was quite a redesign done by Gil Hanse in 2019.
One thing to watch is the greens, they are very Donald Ross like, almost domed like Pinehurst. I actually had to move some pins that looked playable when planted but were too close to the crown and were very difficult....too difficult actually. So if you like to play F(c), F(c) keep that in mind.
Nice update, 3 or 4 greens are indeed tough - which I dont mind - but sadly there is not a single pin on 10th hole that is not on 4% (or higher) greenslope, and that whole green seems to lack any such spots. That together with the lack of updated hole previews makes it troublesome for me to enjoy this course but not a big deal, the layout itself hasnt really grabbed my attention anyway so Im perfectly content with instead enjoying the many other courses you've worked on which suit my tastes better Im sure people who use slower and/or easier putting settings and who dont depend on hole previews will enjoy this one.
Finished Courses - Main: Amedal (fictional), Nine Bridges (real)
Other: Austin, Sheshan, Kauri Cliffs, Le Golf Nat. Updates: Whirlpool, Royal Lytham, Royal St George's, Chicago, Chambers Bay, Munchen Nord E
Working on: 2 fictional courses + a couple things...
I looked at hole 10 and indeed, there is not a puttable pin on that green. The closest is pin 9, but I would still rank it as more difficult than the most difficult pins that I find acceptable. I assume no green book was used on these greens. No one ever said that all courses should be usable by all players though. We still have a lot of courses without Southern Hills.