Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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linkster
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Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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Just so everyone is aware I did a lidar version of Shinnecock Hills for this year's US Open. It is far from the eye candy of Rob Miller's version but you will find this to play much tougher and closer to real conditions.

I didn't have time for the clubhouse or custom 3D tees. I also didn't get to integrate the road running through the course. Aside from the items that make the course feel complete, the course is fully done with textures, planting, and seam blends.

The fringe areas of the course play as fairway but roll with a stimp of 10. This will make the ball run away from the greens as in real life. It also allows for putter to be played from off the green.

Don't be fooled into thinking the course is simple as the overhead views suggest. The greens only play to about half the actual size. Add in slopes and you need to be in specific areas to putt toward the hole. Any shot from the rough, or worse the grass, is a punch out lay up. Add in the wind and this course will quickly take a bite out of your score.

Enjoy the week of the US Open. Let me know if you see any issues with the course that need to be addressed.

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pmgolf
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Re: Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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I've played nine so far. For the amount of time that you had, I think you did great! I'm looking forward to checking out a lot of green speeds, and thanks a lot for your work on putting from off the green.

Pete
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dwg
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Re: Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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I played 18 holes with Windy conditions and at FC/MC settings.

It certainly is not an easy course, and yes I did run through a lot of greens, even when landing in front of the green. I was not going to break par at those settings, it was +5 round.

Des
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Re: Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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I played 2 rounds and found no problems. I found the course pleasantly challenging. I am going to use it as my us open course as i play the season using random conditions
Ian Wells
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Re: Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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Just finished a round and the only point of concern worth mentioning is a bobble on the 11th green.(see screen shot):
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The bobble occurred within 1-2 feet of striking the ball.

(I have come across similar bobbles when testing my courses and 9 times out of 10, I can't find anything wrong with vertices, and also I can't replicate the error - another APCD glitch. :dunno: As I was playing in the PGA tournament I couldn't replay the putt.)

It is another very good rendition, well done. :tiphat:

Ian
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GoBucks
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Re: Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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Completed 4 rounds in an event that pmgolf set up in his LSPN league. Very nice.
The only thing missing as far as I'm concerned is the clubhouse, but the course looks and play very nice.
Thank you!

Dave
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GoBucks
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I hope you find the time and desire to issue a final version! The course is iconic, and your beta version is too good to not be finished with the "eye candy" that you refer to.

Thanks again for what you do for the Links community.

Dave
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leftybob
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Re: Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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First ly, thank your linkster for your version of Shinnecock Hills. I also hope you find the time and desire to issue a final version With the iconic Clubhouse.
I played the course several times over the last week trying to recreate the conditions at this year's US open. I played rounds with all of the wind possibilities
I.e breezy, Windy and Gusty.
I see dwg's reference to windy conditions at fc/mc settings and would suggest that that it'd be more what Shinnecock Hills played like in 2018.
I don't think they ever let the greens get that fast this year. And I would suggest that FC/SC would be closer to what they were, especially if you were playing in windy conditions!
I liked how you did The Fringe areas around the greens. That seemed to be very realistic for what was happening in the US open. I also agree that the greens Etc Etc would be difficult... And they were! Especially if played in the wind.
I am not a designer and I do not know how long it would take to do this, but my suggestion would be The areas of the rough that you called "grass" could very well also be tall grass/ long grass/fescue in many areas of the rough at this year's version of the US open at Shinnecock Hills.
If you ever decide to " finish" the course, maybe you could address that as well.
Thanks again. Your efforts are much appreciated.

Looking forward to both seeing and playing your version of Royal Birkdale for the British open
linkster
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Re: Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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Thanks for the feedback leftybob. Yes, I think the grasses could be better after watching the tv coverage. The hole previews had the grass areas looking splotchy with small bushes and a red hue but during the tournament it was definitely just fescue. I also think I will put a dirt bunker edge on most of the green side bunkers and less rough. Clubhouse is a necessity since it is visible from all areas of the course. I'll have to write down a list to do to the course because it may be a while until I get back to it.

A have a lidar version of Royal Birkdale started but don't expect a finished product. I'll be lucky to get the terrain and bunkers finished along with the 2d planting. Don't expect much seam blending. I likely should have focused on Royal Birkdale. It is a tougher ball striking course with narrower fairways but the greens are generally not as difficult. I guess it just depends on a preference of golf course style.
dwg
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Re: Lidar version of Shinnecock Hills

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Linkster,

I noticed there are no Handicaps on the score card.

Des
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