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Rolling Contoured Courses of Unpredictability

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If your Looking for Courses with variable elevations , as well as twisting and challenging contours , especially when the ball lands , and bounces onto slopes .That is ( Extreme contours ) for unpredictability upon landings in the fairways and Greens ,with ( Undulating ) left to right angles .
....These are the Best i've seen so far . :pcwhack:

To begin with - I was inspired by theses Videos
Starter Videos :https://www.youtube.com/@SkratchTV
Check it Out ; :cheers1:
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhMc-mV ... ex=38&t=0s
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIvZrTYo8t4
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82hrNv92D5s
4.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4WpWq3821w
3. These Courses are ( Always ) selected by using the Most Difficult Pin conditions . :nono:

The Comparable Courses are below :

1.Hillwood Country Club... - https://mega.nz/file/eCoDWQIb#cfWSRGPw8 ... n8b7t7Xp_I
2.Gurus Lair . https://mega.nz/file/ee5TnSZA#hgjVHuGA- ... IlLDJGDBF4
3.El Establo Resort.... https://mega.nz/file/SLoXQAgI#5I3ZzwhQZ ... Go0ZDW81kU
4.Capdepera Golf Resort .... Top Notch in my Book , love its Contours .Download it here : http://linkscoursefiles.co.uk/C2013f/424.zip
5.Santa Barbara's Finest ....Download it here : https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=760
6.ABC1 - A good candidate for Formidable Rolling Contours : https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1218
7.Davis Country Club : Scattered Rolling Hills , and difficult to predict outcome of ball . https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=818
8.Desert Sands : Skinny fairways , Undulating , and difficult ( Its snakey ) https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1461
9.Pine Forest Hills : Undulating left to right turns make this one fun and challenging :
http://53c0f114d8132fed2841-65025bb110b ... m/1509.zip Added 12/14/19
10.The Island : Its abit out there , so beware : https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=268
11.The Quest by Michael Koebbel :David Faherety called this Course " A Bad Boogaloo " -
Download Here :https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=747 - Added 11/23/19
12.Lake Determination - https://mega.nz/file/mXxDAKwS#MAOgungtq ... FxjFSsorWg
13.Sand Creek GC -Hole 4 , and especially hole 7 at 239 Yards - Great View
14 Manitou Island : https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1429
15.Gooseneck Bay Old Golf Course : - Low grade undulations ..Appealing ! :smile: https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=423
16.Whistler Lake by Tom Goodrick : - Long Rolling Fairways , fun with no topcam . :https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=320
17.Greenhead GC. : Tricky Mix of Low and High end...to very steep grades on both Fairways and Greens . Fun :thumbup:
18.Pandora Vinyard of Memphis by Jackson Corp.: https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1824 ( play with difficult pins :thumbup: )
19. Clueless Hills ; Long Narrow Fairways with inclines and dropoffs make this one a challenge .http://linkscoursefiles.co.uk/C2013f/58.zip
Added - 12/7/19
20. Duckhook Wetlands -http://linkscoursefiles.co.uk/C2013f/87.zip - Added 1/2/20
Nice Panoramic Views , some very undulating terrain, and when used with ( difficult pin positions ) in order to score well. :yes:
This Course condition is Considered As ( Honorable Mention ) with Difficult Pins ( As Always ) :
21.Badger National ....Badger National by Scott Osgood : http://c388294.r94.cf1.rackcdn.com/922.zip Updated 1/23/2020
22.Wolf Creek On Black Bear Ridge :https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1095 - Suttle Undulations, Yet try this course with Custom Pins - Difficulty at ( 12 ) on each with ( Breezy , Firm , and Fast Greens ). :thumbup: ( Updated 4/19/2020 )
23.Trysting Tree GC .https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=298 Very Scenic Course , Low bar on undulating , but has nice angles and rolling fairways compensated ..with Wooden planks and elevated greens make it ( barely on my list ). :thumbup:
24.Crooked Creek . https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=2066 Ranked as (48/50) This is a course Subtle to look at , but with its angled Fairays .. combined with sloping greens that look controlable to play....youll find its an illusion . If the yardage isn't correct and angles arent figured in correctly on each shot you will feel :ill: . ( Good Suggestion :notworthy: )
25. St.Christophers Bay :https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1473
( Nice Course , thats mixed every other hole , From the 1st Fairway shot , as well as Holes 8 and 9 you get a box of chocolates depending on the ball placement . ( Good Suggestion :notworthy: )
26.El Canterro Golf Club - Discontinued :https://mega.nz/file/yap1VBRb#6ubvN29oJ ... bmtr2TyG94 Slopers Desert Course with Penalties to pay if you go out of bounds :thumbup:
27.Devils Island -Original / And Devils Island 2008 : http://linkscoursefiles.co.uk/C2013f/1855.zip
While both Courses are worthy of erratic bounces of the ball , 2008 enhances and expounds upon the original design . :thumbup:
28.Zanzibar Golf Club . http://linkscoursefiles.co.uk/C2013f/330.zip Low Contours , but when played with difficult pins becomes very challenging .
29.Flint Gardens Pro Course: One of the best strategic courses i know of ( especially holes 1 - 6 ) : http://linkscoursefiles.co.uk/C2013f/1403.zip 30.Africa Park - Discontinued -https://mega.nz/file/rXBF0ATQ#E1f9jYZhO ... d_5V_silug :thumbup:
31. Golf Club Enesfeld Mod :https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1827 - Nice Angles and Slopes make a great challenge
32.Torres del Paine : https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1478 ( My Favorite ) :cheers1: :thumbup:
33.Ashland Oaks ( 2001 )
34.Autumn Splender ( 2001 ) ( Back 9 Only )
35.Angland Challenge / Castle of Doom
36. Wyntoon Club - From the tee , it is undulating and diverse , but i good tee shot if calculated right will give you a smooth putt to go under par.

Check them out and drop your suggestions below:
And suggest what you want .....It wont be deleted.
I want your ideas . Mine will stay in this post .
Thanks ! : :cheers1:
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Re: Rolling Contoured Courses Like these

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Have you tried any of these courses?

Course Name - LC ID.

Deep Fern (Par 3) - 78

Lake Determination - 155

Sample 7 Course by Ron J demo (MS Links 2k1 APCD disk)

These are all quite a challenge and fit you requirements.
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Re: Rolling Contoured Courses Like - Hillwood - Gurus Lair - El Establo

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Thanks for the followup :

I had already posted these two courses for consideration :
ABC1 (2003)
Desert Sands
For me though Deep Fern (Par 3) - had no fairways to consider for contoured unpredictability in what i was looking for.

Lake Determination -https://mega.nz/file/mXxDAKwS#MAOgungtq ... FxjFSsorWg :dunno:
After reviewing it again , i found it has it ( could be / might / maybe ) a candidate for what i was looking for , though many of the fairways are flat , and most of the Rolling contours were around the greens with ever so slight elevations .
Its enough to make it interesting with difficult pins to play .
And not withstanding the 16th tee shot :wallbash: .........Well , ill stop there. You'll see it when you get there .
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Thanks , and keep those suggestions coming . ! :tiphat:
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Re: Rolling Contoured Courses Like - Hillwood - Gurus Lair - El Establo

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Ok .... Here's One i had not seen , until i noticed it in the Clip Notes :

Clip Notes : http://linkscoursefiles.co.uk/misc/Clip_Notes_3.02.zip

And Qualifies in what i am looking for .

Manitou Island : https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1429 ( Listed Above )

My Notes on this Course would say :

Playability
Hitting the fairways is a challenge at times , you just have to do the math on each fairways distance , to nail it correctly . Because of the blind shots, it’s likely that this course’s has its appeal in using your ( Top cam ) and ( Profile cam ) ....same as asking your caddie in real life .
7/10

Challenge
The greens are Smooth and contoured with curvy distinctions , Hugely sloped, and when used with Most Difficult ( Custom Pin locations ) it makes for a really challenging game.
As such, a Challenge is what i want in a Rolling Contoured Course , and this flips the Bill ( 7/10 )

Technical
There are some good aspirations , and layouts with texture assignments.The Color Visuals are Good and the Scenery is a nice change with the Fall Season featured . 7 /10 . :thumbup: :yes:

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Re: Rolling Contoured Courses Like - Hillwood - Gurus Lair - El Establo

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umanfly2boot wrote: September 28th, 2019, 11:15 pm Ok .... Here's One i had not seen , until i noticed it in the Clip Notes : And Qualifies in what i am looking for .

Manitou Island : https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=1429 ( Listed Above )
From your description, it sounds like Wakonda might just fit those qualifications... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viMSGjWDRI0

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Re: Rolling Contoured Courses Like - Hillwood - Gurus Lair - El Establo

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Sure ....Provided its on a links APCD Format . :whistle:
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Re: Rolling Contoured Courses Like - Hillwood - Gurus Lair - El Establo

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I don't know if my course Black Water Pines fits the bill?

https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=2056
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Re: Rolling Contoured Courses Like - Hillwood - Gurus Lair - El Establo

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umanfly2boot wrote: September 29th, 2019, 1:26 am Sure ....Provided its on a links APCD Format . :whistle:
You mean like THIS? :whistle:
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Re: Rolling Contoured Courses Like - Hillwood - Gurus Lair - El Establo

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This is what i am talking about in this discussion . I am looking for ( extreme contours ) for unpredictability of ball bounces upon landings in the fairway. Not flat fairways for the most part like Black water Pines . But ( Undulating ) !!! :wallbash: left to right angles like Hillwood ....The Best i've :naughty: seen so far .

Updated Point ! ( 7/1/2020 )
Of All of the Most recent additional ( 50 ) New Courses added to Links Corner .
I found most to be cookie cutter courses of previous ideas already done .
And i actually kept a hand full 5 ..... possibly 5 .
Because they Overall they look the same , play the same , and im really bored with these same ideas .
Especially.....when it comes to diversity in ball play .
They are :
1. Flat and true
2. Scenic and Landscapes are Great to look at , but not incorporated to affect the play of the ball .
Example : Kawalana Bay Club - Probably the closet thing to diverse from Sage Savanni as you will get , as all his courses play and look the same to me.
Holes 7 -8 - 11 - 13 have so much potential to being diverse , with water coming into play , possible rock hazard infusion , tree placing, and of course rolling Greens and Fairways . But no .... its not there .... till ( DING ) He added some on 18 . Great ...... :sleep:
But what happened to his imagination .
Put in water hazards , More Bunkers , make us hit the ball into tree lines incapacitated by bunkers , into the whole course
Then it might be playable .
That is what i want . : :yes:
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Re: Rolling Contoured Courses of Unpredictability

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What about Abe's Creek, does this fit the bill?

http://linkscoursefiles.co.uk/C2013f/2471.zip
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