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grostin
Joined: 25 Jan 2004
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Mailman
Joined: 01 Nov 2003
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 Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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I agree although it is much easier to set-up a dual-boot with XP installed first. Windows 7 overwrites the boot loader without any user input. 
Doing it the other way requires a bit more work but is still very possible. 
My advice to anyone going down the dual-boot route is to use it as an excuse to do a full reinstall of XP followed by a full install of Windows 7 (on a seperate partitition obviously).
Be prepared to have to install most programs twice from within each operating system.
I now have 2 hard disks (1 @ 250 BG and 1 @ 500GB) and have loads of partitions. Some of these partitions (such as Links Courses and Photos) are used by either operating system and some are used exclusively by one.
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I really am a Mailman IRL - http://www.boyntonbeach.com/history/mailman/
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stebbo
Joined: 12 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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I'm running fine on Win 7 with an older nVidia card:
Windows 7 RTM, Links 1.07, nVidia GeForce 7950GT,
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Played rounds at Bethpage HD, Augusta 2006, Wagga Wagga and a few other courses without a glitch.
Used drivers bundled with Windows 7 (8.15.11.8593 5/15/2009). No updates applied.
With that sort of luck I thought I'll to with AAon, so installed latest nVidia drivers to get control panel. Links would immediately crash.
Uninstalled latest drivers, went back to original and all is working again.
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carpentg
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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Well, I installed the new ATI 5770 and no change. The last time (about a month ago) I played links was with the Nvidia 285XT and an old driver on Vista 64. The computer had a major crash, lost all sound and the manufacturer support rep told me to upgrade to Windows 7. I jumped through every hoop since then. At least I have sound but can't play links yet.
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Billy Canuck
Joined: 18 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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Stebbo:
I thought you might be on to something there as I hadn't tried that route. However, it didn't work for me. I am using an Acer 6930G laptop with an NVidia 9300M GS VGA. I am presently dual booting my XP with Win 7 RC Build 7100. When I tried to let Win 7 install a driver, the installation failed. So, I went to Windows Update and manually installed the driver from there. It turned out to be the 186.52 version (vs your 185.93 that you got). I try all of the suggestions I find here using the Hillfoot Hey course. Links always quits right after the first swing on the third hole. It doesn't matter how many players there are, the first one to swing gets the dreaded Links dropout. I tried Bethpage Black, and played 9 holes without a problem. It seems that the course has a lot to do with this, and different courses will last differing amounts of time.
It looks like the type of NVidia card plays a part as well. Your card likes the Win 7 driver and mine doesn't. Anyway, Stebbo, thanks for the info. Hopefully we will find a fix at some point that will work for everyone. I will hold off buying Win 7 until then. I imagine many Links players will do the same.
Happy New Year, and may all your putts be short ones. 
Bill.
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carpentg
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:07 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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My only advice is to hold off on Win 7 until the respective manufacturers want to make it work for Links.The program is in storage mode for now. Based upon my limited knowledge of firmware programing this shoud not be a hard problem to solve.
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Billy Canuck
Joined: 18 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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My thoghts exactly. Carpentg. However, will someone in the corporate world actually get off their butts and fix this little problem. Links worked fine for me with Vista, and Win 7 is Vista based. So, how big of a problem can it be? I didn't like Vista (came with my laptop), so went back to my XP. I really like Win 7, but am not prepared to actually buy it until it will work with Links.
Hopefully someone will get that done soon. My Win 7 RC will quit working in May.
Bill.
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stebbo
Joined: 12 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:27 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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Yes Billy, it seems to be a common thread that what is working for some people is not working for others. I'm going to have to keep updates off on this machine to keep things happy.
Buying an ATI card is not a solution as the next thing you know some other program has problems with it. WinXP is not a solution either as I run Links on a home media center PC on the big screen--Win 7 is core.
It's a bit frustrating that I can't get AA working, but I'll have to live with it. Is anyone running 1.07 with AA/AF on or is that even impossible now with ATI cards?
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carpentg
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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My only recourse I can see to get Links to work is to go back to Vista, reinstall the Geforce (I still have the 185 drivers that worked) but that would require a full system reload and all the consequences of that. I think I'll go shovel snow instead.
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wolfpabiru
Joined: 06 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:00 am Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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!Notice to reader!
My english is bad, i'm italian, sorry 
On my notebook, upgrade on last driver nvidia for 9600m gt, with Win Vista.
Links work great on 1360x768(1366x768 is native resolution and this res are glitch)except for sporadic crash that I can not solve.
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Kanga
Joined: 03 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:52 am Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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| carpentg wrote: | | back to Vista, a full system reload and all the consequences of that. I think I'll go shovel snow instead. |
I format every 4-6 months.
It is a painless process. Gather all your driver etc and put them on one disc.
I'm usually back on the net within the hour, and playing golf within 2.
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Don't Make Excuses !
Make it Happen !
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PCS
Joined: 20 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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Stebbo
I and others have full AA/AF working with Win 7. In my case using an ATI 4870 card, and the 08.11 drivers without problems, except for the solid shadow. But that is not a hassle.
Peter
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oldowl1
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:38 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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PCS
Are you using 32 bit or 64 bit Windows 7 please.
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PCS
Joined: 20 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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64 Bit Windows 7 with no problems
Peter
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carpentg
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:07 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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Peter, can you please help me with what Nvidia card and what drivers you are using? Thank you.
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gowoods
Joined: 26 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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| carpentg wrote: | | Peter, can you please help me with what Nvidia card and what drivers you are using? Thank you. |
He's already told you, 3 posts above your's.
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Mailman
Joined: 01 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:08 am Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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| carpentg wrote: | | Peter, can you please help me with what Nvidia card and what drivers you are using? Thank you. |
Peter is using an ATI card unfortunately.
I assume everyone with an Nvidia card has tried running Links with minimal or no AF enabled in Win 7.
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KenR
Joined: 15 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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I have tried every configuration & graphics settings (including settings within Links itself) I can think of with no luck; the game continues to crash at some point on almost all of the courses. There are some courses that 18 holes can be played on without the crash, but not many.
What is interesting is that Links 2001 runs without a hitch in Win7; no crashes at all. Unfortunately it only runs with software rendering and the highest resolution it will run on my system is 1600 x 1200, 16 bit color, so I can't take advantage of my highest resolution setting for my system and monitor. It does work though, so I continue to wait to see if a future Nvidia driver will allow Links 2003 to run with my 9800GT card & Win7. We'll see.
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Jerry Garlisch
Links Corner Staff
Joined: 01 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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| KenR wrote: | | What is interesting is that Links 2001 runs without a hitch in Win7; no crashes at all. Unfortunately it only runs with software rendering and the highest resolution it will run on my system is 1600 x 1200, 16 bit color, so I can't take advantage of my highest resolution setting for my system and monitor. It does work though, so I continue to wait to see if a future Nvidia driver will allow Links 2003 to run with my 9800GT card & Win7. We'll see. |
I asked Mark about the Win7 and Links 2001 and 2003 operation and this is what he replied to me.
Links 2001 isn't 3D like Links 2003. It should work just fine. The Links 2003 problem has to do with drivers
No comment about what drivers are causing the problem. Win7's or 2K3's though.
Jerry
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God grant me the SERENITY to accept the shots I miss, the COURAGE to never give up
and the WISDOM not to throw away my clubs in the water.
It’s GOOD to Play Links
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carpentg
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:35 am Post subject: Windows 7 and Links 2003 all version, with Nvidia Video cards |
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Its all driver related. I don't know enough about firmware drivers but surely some manufacturer will come up with a solution. I now have both ATI and Nvidea cards and niether work. I can fly flight sim forever without a problem. If I can ever find a solution to Win 7 without reinstalling Vista 64, I will wait.
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